A Commenter with previous experience with 'Hobie" - "Zapper"

A Commenter and former Reader of RMN sent this to share.  More information on
Mike Poulos at the bottom.  The Google search also has more information. 


Since that default judgement for $11,739.21 is a done deal and the plaintiff is looking to enforce that judgement, Hobie and Rayelan will just have to scam a little harder.

Speaking of scams, Hobie otherwise known as Jeff Gordon, appears to have prior experience at relieving folks of their money in less than honest ways.

Melinda Comment - Do you remember my telling the story about David Sale and his Security Guy on the conference call?  The Security Guy said that RMN was located on a CIA server.  Does anyone have a comment?  


Mike Poulos and Jeff Gordon Scams - Google search


 http://e65.forumup.dk/about1094-0-asc-15-e65.html

atam Site Admin Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 711 Location: Denmark Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:02 am    Post subject: soliel wrote: batam wrote: market wrote: johnsmith, MIKE never sent you this... It is just NOT true... Market maybe Mike didn't send it, but its TRUE, there is no E65 and never was, try to comprehend it, sooner the better. ----------------- Jorgen, what do you know of Jeff Gordon? It seems to me he is up to his eyeballs in this just as much as Poulos. He constantly hides behind, "The Team does not give my any information" whenever anyone asks him for help about what is going on. I do not think he should be allowed to stay a mystery man when he has the funds of all of us as much as Poulos does. Peace, Soliel When I started to work for Mike Poulos in October 2003, Jeff was already deeply involved in E65. Jeff was the server and security man, and Jeff got paid, and have been paid for years. If jeff wants to play stupid, then so be it, but Jeff know, he is just to yellow chicken to come clean, because with just 2 alive brain cells, he should know that all was a scam. It took me 1 year to figure out it was unreal, and the only reason I found out was that Mike Poulos told a huge lie regards the facilitator. So I can accept that Jeff was blind and stupid like myself up until November 2004 - from there Jeff knew, and in January 2005 he should at least start ask some questions and investigate the answers Mike gave him. But Jeff - as all others need to pay his house rent at 1261 McLynn Ave NE, Atlanta, GA 30306-2529 https://www.google.dk/maps/preview#!q=261+McLynn+Ave+NE%2C+Atlanta%2C+GA+30306-2529&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x88f5069ce1615011%3A0x2df0d148b2d2a3e6!3m8!1m3!1d1773540!2d13.4260254!3d55.59332!3m2!1i1797!2i1180!4f13.1!4m2!3d33.7886994!4d-84.3508648 copy this link into your bowser. A nice place, that the E65 members most likely have a part in. When this is said, I know that Jeff didn't have any "power" Mike told Jeff to jump and Jeff asked "How High Mike?" Hansel is the same, a piece of tool that Mike (mis)used, however Im sure Hansel got pretty well paid. Hansel was the idea man behind HMV, but money and brain always came from Mike Poulos. If Mike Poulos just wanted to play clean, on the correct site of the law, then the man in fact would be able to make it - but Mike have no patient and strongly believes that he, Mike Poulos, is the greatest business man ever in the universe. But Mikes ideas and the right board then he would have mate it. Downside is no one can work with Mike Poulos due his girly temper. Anyhow back to Jeff. The laws in USA are tuff on MLM, and Jeff has been working for a MLM company who in fact scammed all, including the american e65 members, and Im sure that Jeff won't take the heat alone, nor will Hansel. I have asked people to tell Jeff and Hansel to join the forum, but they don't have the balls to do so. Mikey boy don't have the balls either, he claims that he is blocked, how ever the only people who gets blocked here are those who post SPAM, so just another lie. And why will they not participate here? Because they will be asked to come up with solid proof, like scanned contracts, policies etc. and with a business that isn't a business but a scam, then it can't be done, and that is the only reason the chickens stays away. I hope this answer your question? Back to top american-e65-scammed Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Posts: 199 Location: USA Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:36 pm    Post subject: Scammer JEFF GORDON Scammer JEFF GORDON has been playing an active role in the E65 Endowment65 since year 1999, and you can see that the "Email Jeff" in the old website of the E65 Endowment65 is hanging in the versions that Jorgen posts in this forum. Sometime ago another forum member said that scammer JEFF GORDON is not a scammer but I am convinced that scammer JEFF GORDON is a scammer or at least an ACCOMPLICE of scammer MIKE POULOS (as scammer HANSEL KAO is as well). Jorgen is right when stating that all scammed members of the E65 Endowment65 have our shares in the luxurious house of scammer JEFF GORDON in Atlanta If the E65 is for real and not a scam (as I am convinced 98% it is) it doesn´t matter who is the Facilitator. So I believe to conclude that the E65 Endowment65 is a scam just because scammer MIKE POULOS contradicted about the name of the Facilitator is a misleading conclussion. Let´s imagine for 5 minutes the E65 Endowment65 is for real, would you release the name of the Facilitator? I would NEVER do it if I were in the place of scammer MIKE POULOS. Scammer HANSEL KAO with his E-Force Services Pte. Ltd. were, among other roles, the "payment processor" in the VSB stage as well as by providing DotNet from Singapore during previous years in order to collect the many fees we members paid. Back to top batam Site Admin Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 711 Location: Denmark Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: Scammer JEFF GORDON american-e65-scammed wrote: Scammer JEFF GORDON has been playing an active role in the E65 Endowment65 since year 1999, and you can see that the "Email Jeff" in the old website of the E65 Endowment65 is hanging in the versions that Jorgen posts in this forum. Sometime ago another forum member said that scammer JEFF GORDON is not a scammer but I am convinced that scammer JEFF GORDON is a scammer or at least an ACCOMPLICE of scammer MIKE POULOS (as scammer HANSEL KAO is as well). Jorgen is right when stating that all scammed members of the E65 Endowment65 have our shares in the luxurious house of scammer JEFF GORDON in Atlanta If the E65 is for real and not a scam (as I am convinced 98% it is) it doesn´t matter who is the Facilitator. So I believe to conclude that the E65 Endowment65 is a scam just because scammer MIKE POULOS contradicted about the name of the Facilitator is a misleading conclussion. Let´s imagine for 5 minutes the E65 Endowment65 is for real, would you release the name of the Facilitator? I would NEVER do it if I were in the place of scammer MIKE POULOS. Scammer HANSEL KAO with his E-Force Services Pte. Ltd. were, among other roles, the "payment processor" in the VSB stage as well as by providing DotNet from Singapore during previous years in order to collect the many fees we members paid. http://mikepoulosscams.blogspot.com/p/about-mike-poulos-scams.html About Mike Poulos scams The focus of this blog is about a fraudulent program called Endowment 65 (E65), also known as Plus20K or VirtualSafeBox.org (VSB Team). This scam has victimized as many as 100,000 people worldwide since it's inception in 1999. The money taken in by this program, estimated at between US $12 million-$20 million, has been used to create and promote other fraudulent activities including bogus stock investments and gold/silver speculation. The specific individuals are named below: Mike Poulos, an expatriate Canadian, residing in Indonesia since about 1999; Jeff Gordon, an American, believed to be living in Atlanta, GA; Hansel Kao, believed to be a Singapore national. Recently, a new company was formed in Batam, Indonesia and announced in a newspaper there. The company is called HMV Bullion, named for it's principal partners, Hansel Kao, Mike Poulos, and Vizal Fepwarmen. Shortly after formation of this partnership, Mr. Poulos was detained and fined by Indonesian customs for attempting to smuggle 1,000 Canadian silver coins into Indonesia illegally from Singapore by failing to declare them as currency. Hansel Kao, one of the HMV Bullion's partners has been identified as manager of a Singapore business, E-Force Services, owned by Mike Poulos, which has been used since about 2007 or 2008 as a mail-drop to receive documents and funds extracted from victims of the E65/Plus20K/VSB scam. For the latest up to date info on Mike Poulos' scams go to http://e65.forumup.dk

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